New 17 and 19-inch LCDs from Dell -- the 1907FP and 1707FP

Dell is busting out some new LCDs in Europe that glom the sylings of their new 30-inch 3007WFP, but skip the orbit-inducing size and stick with a standard aspect ratio. Both the 17-inch 1707FP and 19-inch 1907FP Dell UltraSharp displays go for a rather disappointing 1280x1024 resolution, and a 500:1 aspect ratio isn't what is used to be, but the 8ms response time and DVI and VGA inputs are nice, as are the four USB 2.0 ports included.

[Gwyn @ Feb 14th 2006 12:42PM]

Wow! 500:1 aspect ratio? that really is widescreen.
(sorry for mocking)

[threEchelon @ Feb 14th 2006 12:47PM]

HDCP?

[Mike @ Feb 14th 2006 12:47PM]

"500:1 aspect ratio", wow, that is crazy. A big change from 4:3 or 16:9!

Mike

[TheG @ Feb 14th 2006 12:56PM]

Anyone know if this is 6-bit or 8-bit?

[lex @ Feb 14th 2006 1:00PM]

Pretty cool that it has 4 USB Ports.
I wonder what you need them for.

[Paul @ Feb 14th 2006 1:01PM]

I have a Dell 19" Ultrasharp Flatscreen. It may not be all that flashy and pretty, but it has an excellent picture. The price was incredible too.

[Dignan17 @ Feb 14th 2006 1:19PM]

I also like the new front buttons on this style. I've got the 3007, and the power button seems to act more like a thermal sensor than a button. I mean, you don't depress it, you just sort of place your finger on it and the monitor turns on. Very cool.

The only thing that the 3007 is missing is the great variety of inputs. Otherwise Dell makes a great monitor.

And to answer what you do with the four ports: well, that's easy...uh...well...four thumb drives?

[master_of_fm @ Feb 14th 2006 1:57PM]

still waiting patiently for the 2407FPW, i get my tax refund friday and now that i see i can order the 2405FPW from costco (best return policy in the world) i hope that i can hold out

[TxdoHawk @ Feb 14th 2006 2:12PM]

My 19-inch LCD's native res is 1280x1024, and personally, I wouldn't go much higher, if at all. You guys must kill your eyes, or really need the space. Not to mention, as a gamer, I don't want an LCD with a ridiculous native res, because that means I have to have a computer that can pump that kind of resolution with my games if I want to avoid graphical degradation due to scaling. (My system is nice, but still fairly modest, so 1280x1024 occasionally poses a problem for me depending on the game. I'm overdue for a few upgrades though.)

[Kazolar @ Feb 14th 2006 2:13PM]

I got the 30 inch bad boy 10 days ago, and its absolutely gorgeous. The blacks are better than the 1st gen 20 inch Dell FPs that I have. Definately noticeable. I would have liked component plugs on the back of it to use as a second tv for the super bowl party.

[Cliff @ Feb 14th 2006 2:47PM]

wow 500:1 aspect ratio lol

[Don Wilson @ Feb 14th 2006 2:47PM]

Cleaverly designed, too bad the screens are too small.

[Kramer @ Feb 14th 2006 4:00PM]

Wow..its still ugly. :|
When will dell release some decent looking products. I must say, these LCD's rock but they encased them in trash.

[Echo_ @ Feb 14th 2006 4:34PM]

they dont look ugly to mee

the base is much better and the slimeline bezel is fantastic

[Lee Gibson @ Feb 14th 2006 6:06PM]

OK, looks like the screen size is 16.997" by .034".

Or maybe you meant contrast ratio. That's a little less, you know, wrong.

[J Kelly @ Feb 14th 2006 6:09PM]

Personally I want to see web pages fill the screen. In fact, I wouldn't mind a 19" or larger screen with a native resolution of 1024x768 (Plasma HDTV!) I realize that higher resolutions give you more real estate, and that you can have two pages on a screen. But to me 1600x1200 resolution is no different than two crappy little 800x600 screens in one. Right now I have a 19" at 1200x1024 and I can live with that. But even then there is too much 'empty space" around most sites, like Engadget for example.

Bye the way, if you want real estate for multitasking, I would add a second monitor. I can't live without two monitors and if I could afford it I'd have 10. It's great to put different applications on different displays at the same time and view them full screen. I got some software that allows me to hotkey windows from one screen to another. As a web designer there is no way I could work with just one screen.

[Echo_ @ Feb 14th 2006 6:29PM]

actually 1600x1200 is 4 monitors that are 800x600 j kelly

[jazzay @ Feb 14th 2006 7:45PM]

am i the only one here who wouldnt give up my 19.8"er with 1920x1440 resolution? It's pretty well spectacular.

w00tness to tigerdirect for the great deal, who needs LCDs? muahaha *curls up in the corner for lack of a 30" flat panal*

[KorruptioN @ Feb 15th 2006 12:19AM]

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=793

According to that, these new LCDs from Dell are 6-bit panels, meaning 16.2 million colours. I got my 1905FP based on the fact that it was a relabeled 8-bit Samsung 193P. Colour dithering is really a bad thing once you've grown used to an 8-bit panel.

Nice stand though.

[KorruptioN @ Feb 15th 2006 12:21AM]

Doh.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=793

[Dave @ Feb 15th 2006 6:05AM]

Top of the list HDCP? I mean come 6 months from now, HDCP is going to be seriously important (Vista). Why, with all the hubbub over it would Dell fail to include it on a newly released panel?

Second, 500:1? 800:1 would be minimum these days, especially given the brightness of these new displays. Probably they are LG panels which have not done as well in CR historically.

1280 on a 19" display? We SHOULD be long, long past that. 17" laptops can manage 1600x1200 which, while a bit on the small side, is vastly better to view than 1280 penny sized pixels on this Disney-esque display. At 19" we should be able to put 1600x1200 on this ratio with no issues. There were days when costs made this prohibitive but those are long gone. In 2006, this is a blast from the past.

Lastly, and in a minor fashion, I like the oval base of the 2405 far better than this. I hope they aren't so idiotic when they get the 2407, and make sure IT has at least 1300:1 CR and HDCP.

Oh well, I'm sure Dell will find ways to improve when these panels fail to interest anyone...

[Johnny Dee @ Feb 15th 2006 8:22AM]

Jkelly,

If you have a huge monitor, then fair enough - fill that real estate.

However if you are designing websites and applications for the real world (where corporations are mostly unwilling to equip their staff with anything grander than a 17" crt) then anything bigger than 1024x768 is going to pi55 people off.

Just think about Miss Jones in accounts trying to run her weekly accounts on a web application, using her little 15" lcd monitor.

[J Kelly @ Feb 15th 2006 2:53PM]

I thought that was my point Johnny Dee? It seems that most of the web is designed now for 1024 x 768 and I can deal with that. So huge monitors with insane resolutions don't help me too much. I'm not saying I wouldn't turn down a 30" wide screen super high resolution monitor. But frankly I chose my current 19" monitor over a similar 20" that had more resolution because having that increased resolution would just make most of the things I work with, i.e. web pages, look smaller.

Currently I run two monitors, a Tablet PC 12" at 1024x768, and my 19" Dell 1905FP at 1200x1024. It's great to instantly check out web designs on a couple different resolutions, or to edit on one screen and view results on the other. But even on the 19" USAToday.com, for example, barely uses half the width of the screen. At higher of a resolution their site would totally suck visually.

More resolution is great if you work with separate widows at onces on the same screen, But again, that is just emulating multiple smaller screens.

The other thing to take into account is that I don't like to sit too close to the monitor. So that is perhaps another reason the super high resolution screens aren't appealing to me.

And also Echo, your right, that would be 4 monitors in one; 4 crappy little monitors.

[BobbyT @ Feb 15th 2006 5:18PM]

Gah they bring out new 17 19 and 30" lcds but where's the new Dell 2407 24" with HDCP they keep teasing us about?

[Lo Yuk Fai @ Feb 19th 2006 12:27PM]

Not sure about the 1707FP but beware of the 1907FP which according to some (see #19, 20 and Google for "1907fp 1905fp") uses a 6-bit TN panel, which require the use of dithering to show *apparently* 16.7M colours. Moreover, the viewing angle, contrast ratiois not as good as 1905FP.

AFAIK, the only sigificant improved parameter regarding the panel is the response time.

In short, IN MANY ASPECTS THE 1907FP IS WORSE THAN THE 1905FP IT REPLACES.

[John @ Feb 19th 2007 12:12AM]

I love my 1907FP 19" flat panel, crisp picture man, I'm gonna buy a second one I love it so much! I like the stand too, you can move it many ways including rotating the screen. I like the built in USB hub as well ;)